Review the REA – submit or resubmit comments -­‐-­‐ Nothing you sent before matters!!

The Ministry of the Environment (MOE) is reviewing the Big Thunder Wind Renewable Energy Approvals (REA) The public has until June 22, 2013 to provide comments in writing to the MOE (specifically Sarah Raetsen) Any comments you made previously will not be considered in the review.

Here’s How:

  1. Resubmit all your previous comments to the MOE again in writing (see address below)

  2. Review the REA documents as much possible

    1. Were your comments included in the consultation report? (sorted by date)
    2. Were your concerns and suggestions incorporated in the REA? Are they to your satisfaction?
    3. Are the reports in the REA adequate? Are the impacts appropriately dealt with?
  3. Submit new comments in writing based on

    1. Your concerns about consultation, open houses, answers to your questions
    2. Whether any of your comments, concerns, issues, suggestions were considered
    3. Whether your comments etc. from letters, emails, phone calls, or verbal discussions are even identified in the REA
    4. Problems with the reports (too difficult to read, poorly prepared, poor study design, errors, omissions)
    5. Problems with the project-­‐ environmental,( trees, birds, bats and you),construction, decommissioning, noise
  4. Send copies of comments to Bill Mauro Wynne, and NMEPC (a record will be maintained)

Horizons reports can be found here:

You must submit your comments either on-­‐line at (number 011-­‐8937) or in writing to:

Sarah Raetsen, Senior Program Support Coordinator

Ministry of the Environment, Operations Division, Environmental Approvals Branch 2 St. Clair Avenue West, Floor 12A Toronto Ontario M4V 1L5

Phone: (416) 325-­‐3306 Fax: (416) 314-­‐8452 Toll Free Phone: (800) 461-­‐6290

You may submit your comments until June 22, 2013 to

Issues people have written about (See posted examples at :

  • Flawed consultation process and questionable Developer Conduct (consultation was too late in the process and all decisions were made, moving the original project location into the watershed without consultation, etc., etc.)
  • Lack of consideration of local input and knowledge (ie. not all stakeholders identified, history and importance of land, protection of the watershed, FWFN traditional uses, bird study, moose study)
  • Issues, suggestions and concerns ignored or minimized (aboriginal rights, watershed, sugar maple forest, white pines, yellow birch, noise and shadow flicker, decommissioning plan, co-­‐existence of industrial turbines with recreational areas such as Loch Lomond Ski Area and Big Thunder, tourism, property devaluation, costs to City of Thunder Bay and Thunder Bay Hydro, birds and bats, moose and other species habitat)

Draft letter examples for submission– the more specific the better – examples help (examples will be posted at )

I attended the Public Open House advertised and hosted by Horizon Wind on… (choose one or more)

  • May 21, 2008 at West Thunder Community Centre
  • September 28, 2009 at Blake Community Hall
  • August 4, 2010 at Blake Community Hall
  • August 5, 2010 at Thunder Bay Labour Centre
  • August 23, 2010 at Bestwestern Nor’Wester Resort Hotel
  • August 24, 2010 at Blake Community Hall
  • May 17, 2011 at Blake Community Hall
  • May 18, 2011 at Fort William Country Club
  • May 30, 2011 at Fort William First Nation Community Hall
  1. In order to enter the event I was required to sign in, give personal information, and agree to be video taped. (not at * events)

    I was …(choose one or more)

    Pleased, shocked, intimidated, quite upset, ………………

    …by this requirement and the presence of several police officers and private security officials. A number of people were denied entry because they refused to give personal information and/or did not wish to be videotaped.

  2. I felt …(choose one)

    relieved and happy, threatened and intimidated, ………………………

    … by the number of uniformed and armed police officers at the entrance and in the hall who were hired by Horizon Wind to supposedly provide protection and security.

  3. This event was attended by citizens like me who were interested in knowing more about the proposed wind turbine project and the impact it may have on …(choose one or more)

    them, their family, their neighbourhood, the City of Thunder Bay, the Municipality of Neebing, the Fort William First Nation traditional lands, the Loch Lomond Watershed, the Nor’Wester Mountain Range, their home and property.

  4. The representatives from Horizon did not make any formal presentation.

    They were/ were not available in the room to discuss various posters and maps about the project. Their responses to my inquiries about … .. (choose one or more)

    turbine locations on the mountain range, impact on the cross country ski trails,

    noise impact, destruction of the sugar maple forest, impact on tourism and the downhill ski operations, reduction of my property value,
    … were … (choose one or more)

    fully satisfactory, reasonable to me, inadequate at best, very condescending, completely unsatisfactory, a complete waste of time.

  5. I found the representatives were …

    …(choose one or more)

    honest and informative, evasive and uninformative, very knowledgeable and helpful, quite disinterested

    …in explaining the project, or answering questions related to my concerns.

  6. My family has been …(choose one or more)

    following the green energy debate, supportive of green energy initiatives,

    supportive of projects that do not disrupt homeowners, opposed to projects close to any neighborhood, opposed to turbines on scenic, historical landmarks.

  7. I and my family feel Horizon Wind should …(choose one)

    Be allowed to build the turbines. relocate the project much further away from homes and families. be prohibited from building turbines on the Nor’Wester Mountains.

  8. My family and I …(choose one or more)

support this project, hope the development proceeds, do not support the proposed development,

trust the Ontario Government will deny approval of this project.



  1. michel says:

    what i feel is important is that we the people of this land understand our right as men and women and our capacity to file common law claims against those civil servants and corporate aggressors who would damage us or our property.
    those who would harm us can be sued civilly and as men.
    once they know that their wealth and positions can be lawfully taken from them perhaps then they might not be so bold as to illegally force their will upon those who they are sworn to serve.
    this is still a common law country as confirmed in this country’s own statutes.
    we the people are still the power and it is about time we start exercising our right, peacefully and with full force of Law

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